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Martin Jauniaux
Hi Peter, I have 2 engines that I want to start on the same starter battery but have my alternators feed both the starter and a 675AH bank for the house. What would you suggest for charging both banks while making sure that both engine positives are completely isolated from each other? Could I just put an ML-ACR Automatic Charging Relay in the system? I have a house switch, a port starter switch, a starboard starter switch and a parelleling switch... Thanks for any advice before I go ahead an place an order.
Nick Polazkowyj
Thank you for this post. I have a few questions though. I have a 44' catamaran sail boat with 2 volvo penta 40HP engines. One engine has a dedicated lead acid start battery, and the other a lead acid battery bank that doubles as a start battery and a house bank for the boats 12v system. The manufacture provided a manual switch so either engine can be started off the others starting battery in emergency, but only in isolation. This means running only one engine, which I frequently do, wont charge the house bank. I want to add a larger Lithium battery house bank and trim the second engines battery bank down to just a starting battery. I also want to setup ACR's so running one, or the other, or both engines will charge the house bank when their starting batteries are charged appropriately. I dont understand what the remote battery switches are in this scenario. I am guessing my engines and starting batteries don't merit these?? Please let me know what ACR you recommend for my situation, and if I need or should have 2. Also, please tell me if the ACR can be set to charge a Lithium bank without having to modify the alternators on my engines. Thank you, Nick Polazkowyj
Peter Kennedy
These kind of ACR's dont work very well with Lithium Batteries. The voltage of the Lithium battery is pretty constant and when it is on charge it only goes up marginally. This means that the ACR doesnt get the signal it needs to combine or separate. Its quite likely that the combiner would stay combined all the time. If you have Lithium batteries with an external BMS (Battery Management System) then you can get a more sophisticated ACR that works on the command of the BMS. In that scenario there are two conditions that need to be fulfilled for the ACR to combine. 1. The Lithium battery has to be able to accept a charge and 2. The source voltage must be higher than the Lithium battery voltage. The Victron Lithium batteries that we sell do have an external BMS and we use the Cyrix-Li-Ct in this case as the ACR.
Alan Raath
I have a dual battery two outboard system with a single battery switch. Outboard Positives to the switch, negatives directly to either battery with a crossover on both negatives. Works like a charm. All the diagrams I see have two battery switchs. Why?
Peter Kennedy
There are a lot of different ways of doing it and there is no one right way. The goal is to always have a battery charged up and available to start the engine. Having more than one battery means one can be reserved for starting When I wrote this article I had bigger boats in mind where each engine would have its own starting battery and there was a separate house battery.
Mercury Outboards Auckland
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CShope
Thank you for this article. I can see that there are two ways that you can wire this situation with two starting batteries and a house bank, using 3 remote switches and 3 ACR's. You can have it as you have drawn with one ACR between Start Bat. 1 and House, and one ACR between House and Start Bat 2. The other way would be with once ACR between both Start Batteries, and the other ACR between House and one of the Start Batteries. Which is preferable in real life? I can see the advantage of being able to combine both engine start batteries without the house bank connected. Also, you could use start isolation with one ACR and engine isolation with the other ACR? Regarding using engine isolation with an ACR between two starting batteries, what is the purpose of using the ACR then? Is it only ever combining for charge purposes when one engine is running and the other isn't? Appreciate the education, thanks!